Conservation can be viewed in different ways. One is the policy or political aspect. The other end is educational aspect. The other area is technical aspect. Zoos can contribute in the technical aspect, and educational aspect, possibly the educational aspect is most important, because zoos are the only institutions in an urban society that have live wild animal collections for the public, and everything starts there. How you interpret live wild animals into the general public. Education might be the most important for us, even before propagation of endangered species. That’s my personal view.