And that baby, from one hand to the other, may have died some way, in other words, to make long story short. Before the little baby gorilla arrived at the zoo, how many adults and also baby gorillas had been wasted, you don’t know. After the baby arrives at the zoo, early days, mortality rate was pretty high. It’s well-documented. And only a few of them survived even two years, three years, five years, all along. Not in a group. So it was, truly surprising event, 22nd of December, 1956, I remember correctly. A baby gorilla was born in Columbus, Ohio, named Kolo, who became a good mother, surprisingly, and grandmother, and so on, so on.