I really didn’t have a choice. Lost a job, and living on unemployment. Steve Graham, then the Detroit Zoo director, kind of rescued me, and I arrived at Detroit. Internally, he was very, very difficult. I was at Belle Isle Zoo in Detroit. It’s sort of a, hate to say dumping ground, but dumping ground of unwanted keepers, and a small animal collection. So I talked to one of those discarded keepers, and said, you were supposed to be a difficult one to work with, and you haven’t given me any headaches.