Basically very, very similar to other small medium sized zoos. You stand between the director and the group of keepers who scream at you at times. So you are caught in the middle. Oh by the way, excuse me, one step back. My accomplishment in Indianapolis Zoo was to research parental behavior of the red-tailed hawks in captivity. So that was a worthwhile job I did. Now moving, so that was back in Indianapolis. And the next one was Tulsa, Oklahoma.