They were kept in cages with sterile tiles, sterile floor. And we thought our zoo directors and curators back then thought that these were such delicate animals that they had to be kept in these pristine, sterile conditions, and it was the absolute wrong thing to do. Today, the gorilla population in this country is one of the most stable populations that we have among all the charismatic animals. Elephants are the same. We, as a profession, as zoos, we learned to take care of elephants from circuses. Circuses had elephants before we did. So that became how you kept elephants. That’s not how you keep elephants.
