And it’s particular the Germans, who were very influential in WAZA back then. And change came very slowly, and I’m not a slow person. And, you know, I would talk about, “Hey, we need to do this, we need to do that. You know, let’s change the bylaws and allow this to happen.” “No, no, we can’t do that. You don’t understand. In 1953, Director Dr. So and so of the such and such zoo in Germany-” I said, “I don’t care about him in 1950. I want it now.” It was just frustrating. Just the pace of change was very slow.
