Yes. In addition to being involved in the AZA, I also was a member of the World Zoo and Aquarium Association, WAZA. Ultimately became chair of that board as well, which was not a lot of fun. But I went to a WASA conference. I want to say Antwerp, but I’m not sure. Another kind of seminal moment for me because the zoo… I really wish I could remember the zoo, but it’s not important. It was one of the European zoos.
