So I got to talk on the phone to all these people who were budding directors, budding curators. I got to talk to their staff, not their staff, but to their supervisors. And just, I was networking. I was just, I guess that’s the word I would use. I was… From ’80 to ’82-’83, I was really starting to network. And so by volunteering for the membership committee, I kind of got my name out there. I guess some people kind of thought I was doing an okay job with that, and I got appointed to the accreditation commission in its very early days.