I should go back to college and go back to my professor, Sid Gauthreaux. He had parlayed… There was a little- Clemson campus was a big campus, but he had managed to parlay an old building, a little brick building right smack dab in the middle of the campus. And he somehow, it was two stories. There was some storage rooms downstairs, but he had the entire second floor was his laboratory and office. And I was not the only student who was attracted to him and his work. So this became like a hangout place for me for a year and a half. We’d go up there and drink coffee and talk about politics and talk about the birds and talk about.