He refused to believe it. But the significance of that story and the significance of that incident was that I stood up to him and told him, “Sorry, you’re wrong, and you kind of got took.” (laughs) And I don’t know, I can’t explain it, but he just kind of took me under his wing, so to speak. And within days of that happening, he made me mammal curator (laughs) of Riverbanks Zoo. Curator of mammals, and I’d never seen any of these animals before. And within about… And so let’s see, that would have been in the fall of ’73. The zoo opened in April of ’74, and about a month before the zoo opened, he made me general curator. So I went from hospital supervisor to mammal curator to general curator in about 18 months in a zoo, the first zoo I’d ever worked in and first exotic animals I’d ever seen.