I’m not sure what, but anyway, he had been involved, John Mehrtens was a… He was a reptile guy. His entire career had been reptiles. And so he had been involved in the very first sea turtle sort of conservation project in South Carolina on a little island called Fripp Island. And he said, “Well, I can get you a job down there. You make $20 a week cash, (laughs) but you get room and board.” So for about two months, I got up every morning. Myself and another young man got up before sunrise, went out on the beach looking for hatchling sea turtles, which we would gather up, and we put them in these big tanks. And we raised them until they got about dinner, not dinner plate, salad plate size.