He’s the director of the zoo. And I remember her talking about, yeah, we have to teach him to be a director. You don’t know everything, you know, but, you know, initially he came on very strong, he had tried to change the zoo and unfortunately the zoo did change. I’m gonna say something that I may regret if you put this in print, but with all the problems that San Francisco had, has had, does have, and will have, it’s a cultural thing. And I always used to joke around saying, if we wanna fix the zoo, to run it like we think we have to fire everybody. I mean, 100% of the employees and then only hire people that never lived in California, to start anew. I mean, because cultures are learned, you pass culture on, you just don’t born a culture and you see how things are done from one from one generation to the next and cultures do change, but they evolve. So this director, his management style of directness was being thwarted in a way by the culture of the institution.
