But I believe that, he knows he has the right team around him. He could support them and he gets involved whenever he has to, but he’s not an animal guy and a zoo seems to do pretty darn good. So it would’ve been interesting, you know, like I said, Phil was interested in the position, had he gotten the position, who knows how he would’ve evolved into the position, moving on David Anderson, David came on very, very strong initially. I mean, once again, San Francisco, whether by intent or by rumor by association, had this reputation, and David, I don’t believe that Audubon, and Audubon totally had a complete metamorphosis. I mean, it was in the sixties and seventies, a terrible, terrible place that had a bad reputation, was a bad facility with no commitment to anything, running on the good old boy system, I guess. Ground foreman worked for years to change and make it into a highly, totally respected facility. I don’t think as I remember, that there were unions at Audubon, and I may be wrong. So I don’t want to, in any event, David had a much stronger approach.
