Yeah. Can we start with the first zoo director and just kind of talk about different styles. I was at San Francisco for 32 years, a fair amount of time. In that time, there were six zoo directors. First was Saul who was there for almost 12 years. My first 12 years who I can’t say enough good things about in terms of being a professional, a mentor, a friend, all around good guy, it was unfortunate when you know, in my eyes when he retired, I mean, it’s not something I wished upon, following Saul we had. When you say he was a good guy, give me some examples of what you consider good to you and how it worked for the zoo management style. Yeah.
