Yeah, I was the conduit literally for almost everything. I mean, Saul was very involved and in terms of going to Australia for the koalas, and he went to China for the pandas. But once you eliminate those two species that you work with during my time, in that period of time, I was the conduit for making deals, most of the time, not like I say, Saul was the director, he went to a conference and strike a deal and strike a deal, fine. I would complete it, he would say, I just gotta yellow nosed wombat from Portugal, take care of it.