So he knew that aspect better. And it was also good because he knew the right people and his connections were better than Saul. I mean, though Saul was a department head, and in the chain of command with Phil, they were on the same level. Everyone reported that the general manager, Phil Arnold had the connections in the department, he worked in the department. So it was just a mutual agreement, I guess, for the year, while we were looking for a permanent director, that was probably the first real change in the management of the zoological society, because when they were started looking for that new director when they hired a head hunting firm to find it, and when the final choice, when they had the shortlist and what they wound up doing is that the director of parks and the executive director of the society, they went around the country, visiting the applicants at their facility, the short list of the applicants, or three or four people that they visited, the applicants and the decisions behind closed doors. I don’t know what was said, certainly by the city allowing the society to participate in the process, they also paid for the process of hiring the head hunter and making it touring, I believe, and touring the country. They involved the society as has never been done before, I think, and though the general manager of rec parks made the appointment, because that was an exempt position from civils, from civil service, the society was heavily involved.
