The senior keepers managed were the day to day supervisors and would do the appraisals of the keepers in their section. Initially, probably, the zoo was very bad and the personnel department didn’t enforce it. Early on, evaluations were rarely done, but the senior keepers would be managing X amount of keepers in the section of the zoo. I mean, the way the city ran the zoo or how the city’s charter is literally, Saul didn’t have the authority to hire or fire. Under city charter, only the general manager of the department, that’s the title all department heads would have, San Francisco be called the general manager, had the authority to hire and fire and discipline, Saul could only recommend, I mean, once again, rubber stamp generally speaking, it’s a rubber stamp that the general manager would be approved, but rules are rules. And that was the rule.