Because A I had to leave Evansville, I was never happy with Evansville itself. I was raised in Chicago, I liked a bigger city environment. The idea of coming to San Francisco, certainly peaked my interest. And the thought of working for Saul, I thought would be absolutely great. I mean, there was no one better more in the business that I would’ve preferred working for. So, we talked, it is funny. San Francisco had always had a reputation. I mean and certainly from the early sixties or late fifties, it has this reputation as a progressive liberal city.
