Yet again, being in the right place at the right time, when I knew I was losing my job, that it was being eliminated, I initially started talking to people and looking to see what’s available. And Saul, who I worked with at Lincoln Park had become the director of San Francisco in 1975. I visited him once, came out here, went to a regional with him and I visited San Francisco. Well, Saul contacted me and he let me know that the staff at that time in San Francisco was almost very similar to that of Evansville, early Evansville. And that the professional staff was a zoo director, a zoologist and a vet, a veterinarian, animal keeper staff was a little more extensive. There was a head keep and an assistant head keeper, since Saul arrived, he was able to add two senior keepers to the staff. So in any event, Saul contacted me and said that the zoologist was leaving and was wondering if I was interested in coming out to San Francisco. And I really the thought it was beyond my expectations.