I really have this feeling it’s gonna happen.” They all go, “Well maybe so, okay maybe so.” One day, we had gone to China, and we had talked to a number of these people, but still we weren’t given a yes and weren’t given a no. And one day I was called by a Chinese woman who was living in San Diego. And she was translating for the head of the forestry department who had control of, you know, one of, sort of control of the pandas. And she said, “Well Mr. Lee wants to come and talk to you.” I said, “What does Mr. Lee come to talk to me for?” Said, its gotta be for the pandas. Anyway, I’d met Mr. Lee, I had met him, you know, in China. So we knew each other, sort of. And they came, they came to the zoo. We sat down in the office and we were talking, in platitudes, you know, as they do, and talking and not getting a yes.
