All these cages were tall, and you could see in from a double, two levels. So we did a lot of that, that’s what that was. And, it was a way also of reinforcing the idea of evolution and our relationships to the primates, without saying a word, having to write it or say a word. Because we, one of our big funders was the Hearst, well I shouldn’t, Hearst Society, Hearst Foundation. And they didn’t like evolution. Well my idea, and this was my idea, I said that we don’t have to mention the word, ’cause that’s what gets them going. If you mention the word, that’s what gets these people going. But here was this, I said, “We need to build an oversize, like a langur,” I thought a langur would look nice, and oversize, a big one, a big fiberglass langur, and sit it, place it as if it was sitting on a bench.
