And I get a call from him. And I figured, well, when they’re calling me from San Francisco, they’re not calling me to say I didn’t get it. And Barbara was with me at the zoo conference, and I discussed it with her before I called him back. And I said, “Well, I think I’m gonna get that job. We gotta make up our decision, we need to give him an answer.” And she wanted to go, ’cause she, at that stage in the game, at that time, she loved, she had loved San Francisco when she came, and I guess she’d go there from Chicago and it’s in December, and it’s like 70 degrees and the roses are blooming there, and all of the stuff is out there. You fall in love with the place, you know, in a way. And she said, yes, you know, she’s in favor, let’s do it. And I said okay.