I mean, I didn’t go west to go to San Francisco, but since I was there to give this paper at this psych Western Psychological Association meeting, I wanted to go to the zoo. Well I went to the zoo and I just thought, I saw this zoo, and I knew the history that the zoo had was very, in a way negative, I guess. And certainly a lot of negative things were written about it. It really was a, did not have a good reputation and this and that. But when I got to that zoo, it was like warm and it was sunny and everything was blooming. And there were these big, big outdoor enclosures for everybody and things.
