It was not an easy animal to contemplate shipping him. And it was quite a deal. And we did though. They put him in a crate and flew him over there. And I’m very happy to say that he was one of the, if not the founder animal to all the gorillas that were born at Howletts Zoo Park, which is what they called Aspinall’s place. So that’s an accomplishment, I think. So this was kind of Lincoln Park doing some conservation work. Absolutely, yes of course it was, it was for conservation and it worked, I mean it really worked, ’cause Howletts then started breeding gorillas, and it was a worthwhile thing to do.
