(laughing) Well, the keeper, head keeper in the monkey house or the ape house actually went with, accompanied him to England. And he knew his animals, so that was okay. And it was a deal putting him in, getting him in a crate and sending him over there. It was quite a, ’cause usually when you sent animals like gorillas, you would send young ones, and young ones are relatively easy to, easy to ship. They’re not, you know, they’re not dangerous. They don’t try to break out or you know, do any crazy things like that. So it was a big one though, and who was, an animal who was starting, really basically starting to feel his oats. It was not easy to ship.
