There was a publication called “International Zoo News” that covered all kinds of news all over the zoo world, everywhere in the world. And I saw he had advertised that he wanted an adult. He wanted a male gorilla, an adult male gorilla. And I thought, “You know, here’s a place. Maybe we can send Casaro,” because this guy wouldn’t stop at anything to do the best thing he could for these animals. I mean, this guy was not kidding. He really did, when he wanted to do it, he would do it, ’cause he had so much money and he really felt for the, had a real feeling for the animals. And I broached it, I went to Dr. Fisher, to Les Fisher and I said, “Here is maybe a place, there may be a chance.” And he said he agreed.