That after a few years that I was there, the assistant director left and Gean Hartz, and I felt that I should get that job. And with my experience that I had had there and other zoos, and that I got along at that zoo. Everybody knew me, I knew the zoo. I felt strongly that I should have that job. And I talked to Les about it, and he wanted to interview other people. And I understand, I understand that, why he would, would’ve wanted to, and he could have been criticized by city people or other people by saying, “Well, you just hired that guy. You can just, you should get the best there is, you know?” So I could, I can understand that. That didn’t really bother me that much.
