And that’s a different kind of a thing too, because you would then have to rely on money coming through the gate primarily, because these other zoos, you were getting money from the city and getting money from foundations and they didn’t have one up there. So I thought this would be a good thing. And so we said, “We’re gonna go, we’re gonna come up there.” So I drove Leroy Thomas. We left his family in Omaha and we drove one night all the way to Edmonton, Alberta, and we got there and he was starting immediately, I never even went to sleep, showing me all these plans for the new, for what he’s thinking of doing, and drawings and things like that. And he was just absolutely, you know, just gushing about all these wonderful things. And I looked at these sort of semi plans. He had drawings of where the gorillas were gonna go, and he was gonna do things for, you know, for some reason he liked, he wanted gibbons too.