I, the psychology department at the University of Oklahoma was dominated by clinical psychologists, not experimental psychologists like I was, and my major professor was. So they, I don’t wanna insult anybody, but they, I will. (laughing) They were, the people who were doing that, the CPs, the clinical psychologists, were sort of touchy people feeling, you know that I, touchy people, touchy-feely people. And I, you know, that’s hard to be. When you’re a scientist, supposed to be a scientist, that’s difficult to be that way, let your emotions get involved in what you’re doing. And there was a, definitely a battle erupted between the experimental psychologists, the few that were there, and the clinical department. And it got to be a battle, and of course we, as graduate students, got to be pawns in that department, in that battle. And I was disillusioned somewhat by it.
