Then I guess he didn’t know any better. He got the horses together and we got them bred. But he had a way with the deer, with Bison, with horses, they trusted him they would follow him anywhere. The pere David deer were so flighting (indistinct) packed in a stall about the size of this room. (indistinct). He counted bison in the morning before Bison went out. He’s pushing the bison out the way. (indistinct) and he got along fine with them. They never caused him a problem.