I think it really really important that you establish a good relationship, trusting relationship with the people you work with, wherever it is. I saw it black foot ferrets in Wyoming. Once I got a good relationship going with the chief veterinarian that was the chief of the whole program federal government gave over control of black footed ferret to the state of Wyoming. They gave up their own animal. State that didn’t care. They would have cared if the ferrets had antlers or horns but they didn’t care about ferrets but Tom Thorn did. And we got to know him and he got to know us we had a good relationship him and I. Same thing happened in Rhodesia.
