Females carrying a dead baby and we don’t know why they’d died. But carrying it around for a couple of days after its dead. So we had to think about what we were doing we had to do something different. Some people had hand raised gorillas we were going to try and take the babies away when they were born from these females that were not being good mothers. We tried every arrangement possible. We left the females and their babies in their group, we separated the mom and the male, we put her along with her closest female. We kept them alone by themselves with their babies. Nothing worked.
