But we didn’t have a helluva lot of space but outside we had mostly enclosures those were the first enclosures for the great apes but before we decided to focus on the gorillas, we sent the orange (indistinct) we sent the chimpanzees down to Louisiana and we were gonna focus on the gorillas at some point, I don’t know who it was or how it happened but we had a thing about the gorillas. Raising gorillas in pairs, wouldn’t breed. But then they didn’t breed at all and so few zoos decided to keep more gorillas together. We had park zoo, Cincinnati zoo and the Bronx zoo. Example of zoos who kept more than two gorillas together. They were successful in breeding them too and we still had the problem that they didn’t have in that our females were not keeping their babies alive. We lost the first few babies that were born. And it was terribly heartbreaking.
