Our kids and Elsie would often go upstairs during the early evening in the winter because it was so cold by the glass. My desk was downstairs in the corner kind of brick walls. It was fine. But we were concerned about the kids being isolated. You know when I grew up I came home and changed my clothes went down the street where kids were playing ball in the street and just stood around telling stories or talking or whatever. And then I realized kids in New York don’t do that. Kids in New York get home and stay in the house. They weren’t out on the street like we were.
