And you’re smiling. I went after quite a number of years at the Bronx, I went because they called me to the San Diego zoo. They wanted to bring me out there to work in the San Diego zoo and I remember on the plane flying out there thinking, I know the director at San Diego zoo, very nice guy. He’s a business person. Boy, it’d be fun to be in (indistinct) zoo. Where I take all that money for animals and spend it the way I wanted it to be spent. Then I go back to the Bronx, of course and Conway and I didn’t have any great problems between us but sometimes he didn’t like some of my ideas, sometimes I didn’t like some of his. And that was the reason I stayed in New York, why we stayed in New York.