So, he was very helpful simply because he’d been the man on the ground at one point in time. And there were others, certainly Clayton Freiheit was a good mentor. Clayton always had a calming effect of thinking things through. There were some others as well. Bill Connolly was always a great colleague. Probably it goes way back to our days because we were both bird people and that was our interest. And I first met Bill probably in 1969. I had only been in the business a couple years when I first met him and we’ve maintained a strong friendship all through it.
