Yeah, it was Bill Cully, William Theodore Aloysius Cully and Bill had been the head keeper at the Bronx Zoo for many, many years. And he came there as director, I’m gonna guess in the 50’s and yeah, we saw him every day. He would get out and walk around the zoo, very interesting personality, very strong Bronx accent and fairly knowledgeable. Then he fell in ill health and had to step down. And then shortly after that, a guy named Don Deetlime became the director and during that time I left and moved on.