That’s a good question. Probably thinking back on it at the time, it was like okay, let’s see where this goes. And as I got into it, I remember my first three weeks when I started there. And in those days, a lot of the old-time keepers, there wasn’t anyone on staff who had a formal education. These were career keepers and they were very good but here comes the college kid. And so, for the first three weeks I had a paper picker and a bag and I picked up paper around the Kansas City Zoo. And since that didn’t break me, I guess they decided, well, okay, we’ll keep the kid. And from then I started working, I think my first keeper function was working gorillas believe it or not.