Jack listened. He paid attention and he was easy to advise because my advice almost was precisely what his standards. Again, he was great with the newspaper reporters. He was great with his PR. He kind of ruffled feathers with the keepers by changing anything, which he had to do, as he… After he’d been there, oh, I don’t know, say about five years, he increased the staff from 22 to 30-something. Jack was probably the most successful of all of the zoo directors that have followed me.
