And Vic then recommended Jack Throp who was a, had never been a zoo director, but he had been at one time an employee of the San Diego Zoo as a keeper, and had worked his way up by being a bird curator at the new zoo in Phoenix, which was just being built by Bob, late Maytag, before Bob died. And I think Bob died just before, which isn’t significant. What is significant, that Jack Throp became a good zoo director and worked at our zoo as my successor for quite a time. I think about nine years. And Jack went down to, he was selected to be the director of two zoos, sister zoos in Australia, The Sydney Zoo, and then a nearby zoo that was established in the country 100 miles or so away from Sydney.
