Actually, he was pleased about what we did and what he did get back. He sent some to Peter Scott in Britain and he raised a bunch and some came back from Britain, also to be released. The obituary when he died in the ’70s, 30 years later, I guess that would’ve been, ’40s, ’50s, ’60s, ’70s, called him the savior of the nene. So all that PR, every story saying these were Mr. Shipman’s, Herbert Shipman birds. It carried through right to his obituary. He never asked you, “Where’s my birds?” He never did, he didn’t. Great story. Let me ask you now, you talked about animals coming to Hawaii from international areas.
