And then we’ll get into your time at the zoo. Well, as you’re totally correct. Then in terms of experience, zoo experience being limited to being an assistant reptile keeper, essentially that means cleaning up after a herd of giant tortoises and draining and cleaning alligator pools, and wiping the outside of the glass. Cy Perkins did not trust me as he did not trust any teenagers go in with the venomous reptiles, just the outside of the glass. And then the sight scene bus driver was the only real experience. And then the BA degree, BS degree from the University of Hawaii finally. And answer, the real answer was, again, person to person. The support Of getting to build credibility, that was tricky at 24-years old with that background.
