So I continued to at San Diego State, where same pattern, full-time student, full-time full time days off and summers as bus driver at the zoo, and then squeeze time for trips with Chuck Shaw. Chuck signed up in the Marine Corps, he was a born leader, he became sergeant in his Marine Corps unit and was assigned Pearl Harbor. I then went to Navy school when they had space for Naval officers in ’43, as I recall. I went three months up in Flagstaff, Arizona, Old State Teachers College up there was our first Navy school. And then next was Columbia, right here in this city, as another three months. And I graduated from Columbia here as a Naval officer, an ensign. And then went down and had invaluable training as a Navy officer in the South Pacific, running landing craft. And that was just a perfect training program for a future zoo official, because it taught both leadership, flexibility, you had to be very adaptable.