And so all of a sudden, here I am, 18 years old, working at the San Diego Zoo as an assistant reptile curator, not reptile curator, reptile keeper. Kind of back me up now. You’re in San Diego, you’ve started college. Yes, now what happened then- How did you, you were visiting the zoo, but get me to how you started your association with the zoo. Like all of us in the zoo business come to realize, the most effective way to accomplish anything is person-to-person relationships. Not on paper, not letters of introduction, they all feel a need, but the important thing is getting to know people that realize you are real, you are authentic, you care, you have credibility, and you’ll come to work on time. It’s much more important to come to work on time than it is to be a brilliant grasshopper that comes to work or doesn’t come to work. At any rate, the person that was my first link with the San Diego Zoo was a guy that later became, he was a classmate at San Diego State.