I’d go down there at times when they import a couple thousand monkeys, and a thousand would be dead. It was just… Really it was depressing. And one of the things that got AAZPA and the endangered species mode was the orangutans problem. And I saw orangutans come in there. And again, you get three or four orangutans, half of them would be dead. And the others who would die within a few weeks. And we finally in the zoo profession said that’s enough.
