You know, people I think who watched Zoo Parade and who watch Wild Kingdom know you as Marlin Perkins of television, and people in the zoo profession who know you more as not only a zoo man but as herpetologist and someone who’s worked all his life with reptiles. When you came to Lincoln Park Zoo, you started, I believe snake hunts. Oh sure. At Lincoln park Zoo. Oh, yes, I’d been, yeah, I had been snake hunting for years and years, even before I ever worked in the zoo, but at St. Louis we did lots of snake hunts, every year both in spring and in the fall we went snake hunt, and in between times on our days off just for the fun of it, then here I thought it would be a good idea to instigate the same thing, because you always get wonderful publicity on those things, and so we did this and the park district, we had a station wagon for a while, and then I suggested we get a better vehicle, and they built a body, we designed one and they built a body on the back of a pickup truck, like a half ton truck, and that was a pretty good piece of equipment for us had doors, we could get inside a step and all to get into the back end of it, and it was still small enough that it could travel on the road, it was GM truck as I remember, and it was a perfectly good piece of equipment. So, then I teamed up with St. Louis where my old assistant Moly Lens was a general curator by that time, and had been curator of reptiles after I left there, and he went every year to snake hunt, so we teamed up at their suggestion actually, they wanted to make a movie of a snake hunt, and I was a photographer, so they suggested that I go along, and we’d have a combined Lincoln Park Zoo, St. Louis Zoo, snake hunt to Louisiana, Arkansas and wherever else, where those ones we selected, and I would shoot the movies and the pictures, 16 millimeter film, and then we both have copies and we could use that for publicity and education at the zoos. So, that worked out all right, and that great big truck went along on that trip and was in those pictures the repair and construction made special little boxes with, I designed them with a sliding top into a metal of track that it went into with a padlock, a hasp and a padlock bent there so that you could put poisonous snakes in there and lock them up and make sure they’re well ventilating, and we always put them in flower sacks inside of these boxes, and then we use those snakes to ship to other zoos in other parts of the world, in exchanged for their reptiles or amphibians or whatever, and some of those boxes turned up in places like Prague and Johannesburg, South Africa. They never sent them back.
