(chuckles) Not enough. Okay, zoos, in many cases, are afraid to confront animal welfare or animal rights groups that are anti-zoo or anti-aquarium. Sadly we even have people in top positions in our field who seem in line with that. In many cases, these non-biologists have to say, please give us your thoughts of how best to deal with these type of groups that you may have had to have experience with in your tenure as director. Indeed, I think most zoo directors do have encounters with people who come from the animal rights and animal welfare organizations that have a perhaps misguided intent in respect to their effects on zoos and aquariums as institutions. What my earliest encounter in respect to such a group, which was criticizing from outside, was to invite them in and give them a thorough going tour of the institution, including the animal hospital and what we did in respect to the health of the animals, and so on, and give them a picture of the concern of the keepers in respect to their individual animal charges, and so on, and so forth. (George chuckles) And we turned the group around. It was really a pretty remarkable circumstance.
