But his outreach to places around the world. And as you may know, he etched the little panda symbol of the World Wildlife Fund. That was his work. But he also sketched when he went around the world and one of the places was in Oman. And then in that case, his little sketches charmed the sultan of Oman so that the sultan awarded a million dollars to the Species Survival Commission, which benefited me greatly when I eventually succeeded Sir Peter Scott as chair of the commission. But what I saw in terms of the zoos was a connection with actual promotion of conservation actions on the ground where the creatures that the zoos were holding and maintaining in their collections were coming from. And so I felt it was important to be so engaged. And when I became chair of the commission in late 1989, I really pushed on this front in terms of the Association of Zoos nationally and internationally.
