And he did to a remarkable effect in terms of studying, again, the Peromyscus, the wood and beach mice from mainly the Southeastern United States. And as a result of Bruce’s work, doctoral work, we also acquired Robert Lacy and this led, shortly, to then the first population viability analysis model that has been subsequently widely used in zoos around the world, the VORTEX model. So that was the kind of thing, as I say, it started with Peter Crowcroft’s feeling that we had to have staff in addition to the curators with direct responsibilities for the collections. We had to have people responsible for the future of the collections in terms of our knowledge thereof. And that led to the genetics program as a whole. Well, you had indicated that there was one point in the zoo’s history of co-directorship. Yep.
