So he had established a little foundation and he became associated with the, he was on the board of trustees of Chicago Zoological Society. So Peter Crowcroft approached Bill Rutherford in terms of perhaps acquiring a bit of territory in Australia for the hairy-nosed wombat. And so that led to what is now still the Brookfield Conservation Park about 70 miles north of Adelaide. And it’s quite a contrast in terms of what happened there, but that got us into Australia in terms of conservation for a long time, especially in the state of South Australia. So Peter set a good example in that respect, reaching out in terms of conservation endeavors in the fashion that we had not previously done. I mean, while we’d been involved with efforts, especially collective efforts in terms of managing populations of threatened and endangered species in zoos. And I was particularly involved with the development of the ISIS, the International Species Information System, but we hadn’t any external efforts such as Peter fostered in Australia. So that was a new game.